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DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'm gonna have to agree there. That is some *very* old school WoW, back when it was a little rusty. Just shows how much an online game can change and improve. Have you gotten to Onyxia or AQ, Dreamrunner?

I did do Onyxia. The short raid was cool but the quests to get to her were long and hard, more so for the horde than alliance. I liked the quests itself, but to be bias against an faction over via another was stupid. I didn't get to do AQ40. I played WoW for a good length of time, around 1 and bit years. I guess it was "rusty" for a long time and the lack of vision Blizzard has when it first came out.

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Originally Posted by big papi

WoW has come along way since you last played....just about everything you said has nothing to do with the current game

Really? So a person who has sup-par gear can go and have a decent chance in a high raid? Or in PvP? I doubt it.

So the quests still go and have Go kill X monster and bring X amount of monster skins or hearts, bladder, brains. Because when I tried it in the expansion, it was the same recycle quests.

I still hear that they're are queues to get into WoW.

But I don't know if you need to get attunement to get into the new raids in the expansion. I heard about the Nax attunement and that a lot of people won't even bother to even touch it.

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Originally Posted by big papi

im aware of what he meant.....no monthly fee doesn't mean shit if u keep having to buy expansions every 6 months

Of course it does. It means there is a set amount of you have to pay. While WoW just keeps on going. Also you pay what 15? 20? per month. Thats around $90-$120 per 6 months?

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 19, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Both WoW and GW are decidedly less than great.

big papi · Nov 19, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

I did do Onyxia. The short raid was cool but the quests to get to her were long and hard, more so for the horde than alliance. I liked the quests itself, but to be bias against an faction over via another was stupid. I didn't get to do AQ40. I played WoW for a good length of time, around 1 and bit years. I guess it was "rusty" for a long time and the lack of vision Blizzard has when it first came out.

Really? So a person who has sup-par gear can go and have a decent chance in a high raid? Or in PvP? I doubt it.

So the quests still go and have Go kill X monster and bring X amount of monster skins or hearts, bladder, brains. Because when I tried it in the expansion, it was the same recycle quests.

I still hear that they're are queues to get into WoW.

But I don't know if you need to get attunement to get into the new raids in the expansion. I heard about the Nax attunement and that a lot of people won't even bother to even touch it.

Of course it does. It means there is a set amount of you have to pay. While WoW just keeps on going. Also you pay what 15? 20? per month. Thats around $90-$120 per 6 months?

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i cant take your opinion on wow seriously...not when you have absolutely no idea about the current state of the game. so please.......just shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up

as it stands now WoW has cost me less then guild wars and it will always stay that way

Bryant Again · Nov 19, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Really? So a person who has sup-par gear can go and have a decent chance in a high raid? Or in PvP? I doubt it.

It's just the way WoW is made. One way to look at it is thus: Getting better gear is the only way of progressing your character through the game without having insane level caps.

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

So the quests still go and have Go kill X monster and bring X amount of monster skins or hearts, bladder, brains. Because when I tried it in the expansion, it was the same recycle quests.

As I've stated earlier (in this thread? Elsewhere?) it's hard to be original and have unique and different quests when there's so many of them. There are a large amount of different and unique quests throughout the game, but they're easily overshadowed by the large amount of run-of-the-MMO quests.

I'd also consider the quests in TBC to be nicely varied and more enjoyable (see "Bomb Them Again!")

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

I still hear that they're are queues to get into WoW.

Not really. There are instead some weird low-pop server problems. "Weird" because it's very dependant on the people: My favorite guy is on a low-pop server and there ain't a whole lot of complaining in it. Only gotten to SSC and The Eye though. It really depends on how willing the people in said server are willing to work with each other.

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

But I don't know if you need to get attunement to get into the new raids in the expansion. I heard about the Nax attunement and that a lot of people won't even bother to even touch it.

No point to touch it, dude. It's obsolete with only lvl 60 gear. But yes, back then it was a little intense. Most of the WoW population, even quite a few hardcore raiders, didn't even get past the first room. But Blizzard is learning from this and is not going to let this go to waste, since Nax will be revamped in the next expansion into a 25 man raid.

big papi · Nov 19, 2007, 05:27 AM // 05:27

bryant its not worth having a real argument with the man he doesn't know anything about the game anymore

DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by big papi

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i cant take your opinion on wow seriously...not when you have absolutely no idea about the current state of the game. so please.......just shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up

as it stands now WoW has cost me less then guild wars and it will always stay that way

Oh whoa, so much potential at the start but you can't keep it up. How sad, yet not surprising. Oh well, I guess I have to depend on Bryant Again, again to get some insight.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

It's just the way WoW is made. One way to look at it is thus: Getting better gear is the only way of progressing your character through the game without having insane level caps.

As I've stated earlier (in this thread? Elsewhere?) it's hard to be original and have unique and different quests when there's so many of them. There are a large amount of different and unique quests throughout the game, but they're easily overshadowed by the large amount of run-of-the-MMO quests.

I'd also consider the quests in TBC to be nicely varied and more enjoyable (see "Bomb Them Again!")

Not really. There are instead some weird low-pop server problems. "Weird" because it's very dependant on the people: My favorite guy is on a low-pop server and there ain't a whole lot of complaining in it. Only gotten to SSC and The Eye though. It really depends on how willing the people in said server are willing to work with each other.

No point to touch it, dude. It's obsolete with only lvl 60 gear. But yes, back then it was a little intense. Most of the WoW population, even quite a few hardcore raiders, didn't even get past the first room. But Blizzard is learning from this and is not going to let this go to waste, since Nax will be revamped in the next expansion into a 25 man raid.

I know its way the thing is made. I dislike WoW for that reason, I guess it was because I thought WoW was more PvP than PvE and only after a few months I realized that it wasn't. I think it that reason on why I moved to GW after it. Some people like wasting away huge amounts of time, but its not for me. I wanted something more competitive and only found that battlegrounds was a huge let down as well. World PvP was the only thing thrilling and that died.

I loved the early quests in WoW, It had so much... than the usual quests did. Darkshire was my favorite and you had that huge corpse guy coming

It killed so many, loved it, so much fun. But its strange because they actually took him out and It was lame to be honest, carebears

However I agree with so many, but over the fact that the quests so early were so good in story telling that it just got old when you try the same format. When I played it again, and over time it just lost its magic and some quests that I did just didnt bring that magic back to me.

DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by big papi

bryant its not worth having a real argument with the man he doesn't know anything about the game anymore

Love the hate, give me MOAR!

big papi · Nov 19, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Love the hate, give me MOAR!

do a barrel roll
DIAF
PIHB

any of those should serve you well since you know so much about wow.....

i don't even play WoW anymore but i just don't see how you can come in here with your meaningless opinion on a game you havnt played in ages

do some research before you open your mouth in the future

Bryant Again · Nov 19, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by big papi

bryant its not worth having a real argument with the man he doesn't know anything about the game anymore

I don't think I'm really arguing with him. I'm telling him what I can about how much the game has changed (for the best.)

My main point is still this, though: WoW is *much* much less of a grindfest right now than it ever has been. With many of the attunements removed/reduced and leveling speed increased (increased EXP from everything, even more from quests), it's definently getting quicker (leveling was okay imo, but 45-50 is still a slight pain in the ass.)

big papi · Nov 19, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I don't think I'm really arguing with him. I'm telling him what I can about how much the game has changed (for the best.)

My main point is still this, though: WoW is *much* much less of a grindfest right now than it ever has been. With many of the attunements removed/reduced and leveling speed increased (increased EXP from everything, even more from quests), it's definently getting quicker (leveling was okay imo, but 45-50 is still a slight pain in the ass.)

after his 1st distasteful post you should have just left meaningless comments such as me

DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 09:37 AM // 09:37

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Originally Posted by big papi

after his 1st distasteful post you should have just left meaningless comments such as me

Distasteful? I think of it as more of how much WoW sucked when I played.

I'm not really argue with Bryant, just with the OP who I have posted. I did have an epic arguement of flaming with Bryant a while ago which was fun but left it in the end because we came to a cross road in my opinion. We couldn't say anymore. In fact I liked Bryant Again more so because of it

Pickletron · Nov 19, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14

I actually like the grind in mmo's, working towards the next level or working towards the next awesome weapon but I still find WoW dull.
GW is getting dull too, now that I've gotten my new computer + Crysis

azzer20 · Nov 19, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by big papi

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i cant take your opinion on wow seriously...not when you have absolutely no idea about the current state of the game. so please.......just shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up

as it stands now WoW has cost me less then guild wars and it will always stay that way

ofc it will you won't buy it twice do you?

I played less dor all 4 campaigns than i paid for WoW this is a stupid argument, granted i also think WoW is slightly better in PvE but PvP Guild wars is better, both game have something you will get adicted by, you can't really compare the game, i just like Guild wars more because you need to have skills, not like WoW where you can have 6000 skills at a time

big papi · Nov 19, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Distasteful? I think of it as more of how much WoW sucked when I played.

I'm not really argue with Bryant, just with the OP who I have posted. I did have an epic arguement of flaming with Bryant a while ago which was fun but left it in the end because we came to a cross road in my opinion. We couldn't say anymore. In fact I liked Bryant Again more so because of it

thats great maybe some day we can hold hands and stroll along the beaches of lions arch.......

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ofc it will you won't buy it twice do you?

I played less dor all 4 campaigns than i paid for WoW this is a stupid argument, granted i also think WoW is slightly better in PvE but PvP Guild wars is better, both game have something you will get adicted by, you can't really compare the game, i just like Guild wars more because you need to have skills, not like WoW where you can have 6000 skills at a time

lolwut

Bryant Again · Nov 19, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

...In fact I liked Bryant Again more so because of it